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Red Squirrel
Posted: Aug 22 2004, 07:55 PM
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Opera is a free browser which is a great, better alternative to old bloody buggy IE. In this article learn how to make it even faster then it already is!

http://www.iceteks.com/articles/db.php/act...e/operatips/p/1


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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 04:24 AM
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...Or use the fastest browser; FireFox


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Chris Vogel
Posted: Aug 23 2004, 04:44 PM
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Okay, I will settle this once and for all and say that both Firefox and Opera suck! Internet Explorer is by far the best browser. smile.gif

Now, thanks for writing the article, Brandon. smile.gif A lot of this can also be applied to other browsers. I would be too lazy to enable JavaScript only for sites that need it though. When Opera supports CSS3 attribute substring selectors, users will be able to make more powerful CSS to block advertisements or anything like that. If Opera doesn’t download objects with display:none; applied (I believe it doesn’t.), that could speed things up.

Opera users, as well as everyone else, can block certain domain names with the HOSTS file or whatever your operating system provides. There are lists out there. When I had a really big list, my computer was sometimes unresponsive, so…

Oh, notes have been seen in other browsers. You are right about M2 not being in other software, but I shouldn’t think Opera would allow that.
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Posted: Aug 23 2004, 06:25 PM
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Personally I like mozilla better then opera but I have opera too and it's not a bad browser, and it is pretty fast. If it was not for the ads I would maybe actually use it as my main browser. I used it before mozilla but got sick of those flash ads, and when they started doing porn, I switched to mozilla. I think they are more strict on ads now though.


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Posted: Aug 24 2004, 02:31 AM
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I've actually had trouble with opera messing up renders when I used it. Not sure if they fixed that.


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Posted: Aug 24 2004, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (dusia @ Aug 24 2004, 05:10 PM)
FF and opera the best browsers but opera sometimes opens pages not corectly smile.gif

and in long time of usage time of opera startup increases sad.gif(

IE wins in compability of rendering pages but not interface not security not ..............

mising tabbet interface in IE smile.gif

I hope you two are joking... right?

IE is by far the worse browser when it comes to internet standards. Try to view a site with advanced W3C compliant code... you won't get too far.

Netscape (mozilla, firefox etc...) and Opera are the best at rendering since they are standard compliant. View this site in a non-Ie browser, for example and you'll notice a big difference - it will look much better, table borders will be more complete, the shoutbox will actually work, etc...

My next design will hopefully look better in IE though but I'm still aiming towards standards, and not IE.


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Posted: Sep 22 2004, 09:23 AM
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IE is evil! It ingores most html standards, and the rest it renders horribly. Basically, most people own a vehicle newer then IE... IE is old!


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Posted: Sep 22 2004, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE (Scotty Baby @ Sep 22 2004, 04:43 AM)
QUOTE (~guest~ @ Aug 24 2004, 04:56 PM)
Personally, apart from no tabbed browsing. IE6 is the most compatible browser out there, and now with SP2 on Win XP, it's more secure than before............

Oh, no he DIDN'T just say that, did he?

It’s true!

If you were to take every HTML page on the Internet, IE6 would probably be able to view more of them than any other browser, right? As for security, SP2 did give security enhancements to IE, making it more secure than before.
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Posted: Sep 22 2004, 06:14 PM
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Actually did they fix the standardlization problems in SP2?


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Posted: Sep 22 2004, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE (Red Squirrel @ Sep 22 2004, 05:14 PM)
Actually did they fix the standardlization problems in SP2?

I think IE checks MIME types now. This will let people realise that they have their servers misconfigured, which will help Firefox, Mozilla, etc. users too! smile.gif I hate when I click on a binary file to get a bunch of messed up text.

Other than that, I don’t think so.
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Good stuff... I hate that too. The problem with most webmasters... at least non-professional ones (that might represent a big enoguh portion of websites out there) they only base themselves on IE standards, which are pretty far from W3C standards. It's just a good thing that even W3C browsers still support more then what W3C standards say, otherwise it would really be a mess.


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