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| Onykage - Jan-30-2006 server time |
| lmao werdem |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-29-2006 server time |
Hmm or I can turn it into a really expensive looking hub, and a passive hub at that.  A network admin's worse nightmare. |
| Onykage - Jan-29-2006 server time |
| lol.. that works too.=) Or. if you wanted to indevor into a really tight mod, use its guts on the inside of a nix router box, basically using it a switch that is directly wired into the ethernet of the server. That sounds like such a good idea. I think Im going to stew on that some. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-26-2006 server time |
| Hmm honestly never realized heat could be an issue, and given this problem is so on and off, it makes sense that heat would be the cause. I have a spare 80mm fan I'd have to try out some modding. Or I can go with my original plan of turning it into an ethernet cable tester. |
| Onykage - Jan-26-2006 server time |
| well, I have a solution to your problems. First off, this particular model is a heatpump. The industrial grade versions come with 2x 40mm 25cfm fans. Outside of being loud, it is a solid machine. I personally own one, and Ive never had a problem out of it. Now to fix the Fvs318 you will need to install some fans. I noticed alot of the problems that you guys are mentioning when i first installed this particular model over a year ago. Cooling it off is your fix. Once you get past that, it really is a sweet router for the money. unfortunatly I dont quite know where I put the pics for the mod I did on the Netgear FVS318. But, I will try to dig them up and get them posted on here in the next week orso. Lastly, the VPN problems mentioned,.. Im not pointing fingers or tring to pee in anyone's cheerios but, if your in the buisness of web-enterprise and you use consumer grade equipment, then the only person at fault is yourself. If by now you havnt figured it out, in the computer world, if you didnt pay for it, then you can NOT depend on it. The 318 is a small buisness/consumer grade model. I would personally recomend a cysco or medium grade intel model to be used in comercial and industrial environments. goodluck, and i'll try to get those pics posted for those of you who are still tring to make your 318 work properly. |
| gd253 - Jan-26-2006 server time |
| Have you thought about the possibility that your ISP could change your IP address each 24 hours like mine does? That would upset your VPN. Maybe you need a fixed IP address at either end. --gd |
| Red Squirrel - Dec-02-2005 server time |
Wow so this really is a bad model.  Everyone, not just me, is having trouble with it. My article at first was all positive about it since it worked great for the first couple of weeks, then it went to crap. That seems to be what happens to everyone. You'd think netgear would do something about that though. And we can't argue against the fact that it's a good firewall, because hackers will NEVER get past that router, especially if it's down again.  |
| Dizzy1 - Dec-02-2005 server time | ||
I have used Netgear products for years without issues but I agree the FVS 318 V3 is junk! I just deployed 6 of them spread over a 2500 KM radius linking 6 sites. They connected fine when I deployed them then they started acting up so I upgraded the firmware. Big mistake, now the VPN's just stay at idle. I have tried everything but suspect I have to make the trip a second time to replace them with real routers. Thanks Netgear, you costed me thousands, I wouldn't recommend Netgear to my worst enemy! |
| Red Squirrel - Nov-13-2005 server time |
| I have not had any issues with mine for a while now. All the stuff on top of it remains in it's raised position, on my junk shelf. |
| ~Tony~ - Nov-13-2005 server time |
| Has anyone had better luck using the latest firmware (3.0.22beta)? I'm referring to the VPN disconnect 'feature'. I have one of these routers (V3), but have never used it, and was looking to pick up another one to set up office-to-office VPN. Thanks, Tony |
| e-dude - Nov-01-2005 server time |
netgear products stink... waste of time and money..  |
| Red Squirrel - Sep-12-2005 server time |
| wtf how did that get there? That database is read from this topic?! Stupid bonner pills crap. these people seriously need to be shot to death with a pellet gun. Hmm that's what happened the spam bot killed it but it stayed in the DB - had to approve it then delete it. Either way, I got his IP (83.237.46.168) now and he's a gonner. |
| jryan - Sep-12-2005 server time |
| Red, have a look at the comments section from your article (on the actual ICETEKS site) and remove the links to that guy's site would ya? Thanks |
| Red Squirrel - Sep-04-2005 server time |
| Had to reboot it again today. What happends it that the response time becomes VERY slow, then it dies. I was searching for stuff on Google and every single link I clicked was VERY slow to load or timed out. Man I wish I had a video camera so I can film myself trashing it and add the video to the review. |
| Red Squirrel - Sep-04-2005 server time |
| Wow I would definatly want to add that video to the review. I also added at the end the problems with this, and removed the line saying I recomend it, because at first I did until I realized it's crap. Hmm, if I could get hold of a camera I could film myself doing something as well so we have various destructive videos.  We have a nice huge circular saw sitting in the shed, and it happends to be for metal.  I've worked with a sonicwall (TZ170) and it's pretty nice, and it actually works lol. |
| Don Ulrich - Sep-04-2005 server time |
| Here's an update to my VPN problem with the Netgear FVS318v3. The VPN closes itself down approximately every 24 hours or so. I don't know why. What we do at one end of the VPN is reboot the Netgear FVS318 using the HTML interface. This re-establishes the VPN. HOWEVER!!! To get to THIS level of stability (if you can call it that) you NEED to be on the latest firmware upgrade, currently 3.0_21. You need to enable the IKE stay alive feature AND set to Aggressive mode ... So ... our branch store manager logs into the main POS workstation in the morning, and first thing she checks the VPN by pinging the server at the main store. If the ping is successfull then she starts the POS software. If it is not, she performs the reboot of the Netgear, then tries the ping again. We have found that we no longer have to reboot the Qwest DSL modem ... a reboot of the FVS318 seems to be enough to restore the VPN. As I mentioned before, this needs to be done approximately every 24 to 36 hours.  This is a royal pain in the a**. As soon as our back to school season is over I am throwing the Netgear out and going with SonicWall. I hope I can help forestall some of your readers from going through this nightmare ... Do Not Rely on a NETGEAR FVS318 for your VPN. I plan to film myself blowing holes through these routers with my 12 guage shotgun. Can we post a copy of this video on your forum?  Yes, I definitely suggest that you redo your review ... |
| Red Squirrel - Aug-31-2005 server time |
| Wow I'll have to edit the review, this router SUCKS. It keeps loosing the connection. I'm probably end up dumping it and going back to the linksys. Edit: I'm about ready to take out the sludge hammer on this thing, what a POS. I reseted it twice today. |
| Red Squirrel - Aug-26-2005 server time |
| The 3.0_21 firmware fixed my disconnection problems with normal internet but I have not tried to VPN yet, but I'll post my experience with it once I get it working. |
| Don Ulrich - Aug-24-2005 server time |
 Regarding the FVS318v3. I have been struggling with the VPN on this for about 4 weeks. I have placed two trouble reports. I have 2 FVS318v3 running the latest firmware update V3.0_21, at each end of the VPN tunnel. Both are connected to ActionTek DSL modems. The FVS does the DHCP. We DMZ'd the ActionTek to the FVS. The latest trouble report was today (Aug 24). The basic problem is that the VPN kills itself at various times during the day. The only way to re-establish is to reboot the router and the dsl modem, sometimes at both ends or sometimes at just one end. Sometimes the VPN will last a few hours, sometimes only a few minutes, depending on the mood of the FVS. I enabled the new IKE stay alive function on 3.0_21 and reset the vpn mode to aggressive from main. I also reloaded the firmward upgrade per the instructions from the netgear guy in India. I would like to hear from others that have had this problem with the Netgear. I wouldn't recommend this product for business needing to connect branch stores unless you have a full time network guy on these routers. |
| Red Squirrel - Aug-24-2005 server time |
| Well that was pretty much the whole idea behind making a review, showing what the product has to offer and what my level of satisfaction is and wether or not I recomend it. |
| Karl - Aug-24-2005 server time |
| Thats a pretty dodgy review. All you do is list the capabilities of the router, nothing else. From someone who uses this router I have to say the following. They are pretty good and reliable. The VPN function works well, as long as you use Netgear stuff on the other end. The remote login feature works very well. The problem is that many Netgear ADSL modem/routers will do everything the 318 does, with a firmware upgrade. 318s are not really that good when it comes to having many concurrent VPNS going. Best to get a 328 which has a bit more grunt. |
| Red Squirrel - Aug-23-2005 server time |
I forgot to mention in this review that every 24 hours this router requires a reboot since it looses it's internet connection.  There's a new firmware out though, so hopefuly the upgrade will fix it. |
| Red Squirrel - Aug-22-2005 server time |
| Hey that would be kind of cool. VPN tunnel though right? |
| jryan - Aug-22-2005 server time |
| The firmware appears to have some linux elements... so if you can learn to program using PERL you should be all set... hey Red, you realize we could technically bridge our networks as a WAN with our current Router Setup? |
| Red Squirrel - Aug-22-2005 server time |
| Yeah pearl is something worth learning. I'd have to get around to it. But first I need to try and learn regex by heart at least.  |
| jryan - Aug-22-2005 server time |
| The firmware appears to have some linux elements... so if you can learn to program using PERL you should be all set |
| Red Squirrel - Aug-22-2005 server time |
| Yeah I heard you can do that on linksys routers, but it has to be a specific model and I could not find that one, something I've thought of trying too lol. If I was very experimental I'd try to write my own firmware lol. |
| jryan - Aug-22-2005 server time |
| I've got one of the newer Linksys ones... however I uploaded firmware from a company called Sveasoft to make the router "better" lol. It added VPN functionality, Virtual LAN's and a whole slew of other features. It more than most likely will void your warranty though. IF that's not a concern, what the hey lol. |
| Red Squirrel - Aug-21-2005 server time |
| Not really, a linksys router will cost you that much and not give you half those options. Though I'm basing that on my old linksys which I bought a few years back, so not sure what they offer now. |
| Guest - Aug-21-2005 server time |
Good review and a good router...if you have that cash to spend. A little too much  in my book. |
| Red Squirrel - Aug-21-2005 server time |
| For only a bit over $100, this router has very flexible options such as firewall rules, site to site VPN, basic web filter, packet inspection, logging and much more. Read on to find out what it has to offer! http://www.iceteks.com/articles.php/netgearfvs318v3/1 |
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