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Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time
Just checking to make sure that my main account isn't switching to ASPAM

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
Sure thing, I'll log out from the ASPAM account. Spamming gets tedious after awhile. Now I feel like such a cretin. Anyways, Caio.

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
well I'm closing my text editor and admin CP so don't try more since I won't be around to unblock you. tongue.gif But if you get bored and want to write a bunch of possible spam, or even spam you've seen and send it to me I can feed it through my test script to make sure it goes as spam.

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Yeah but what's hard with small words like that is that they can possibly be used in a different context. Such as

"hi I'm knew! Once I get more free time I'll try to post more"

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
Free should be a good 100 points. The word "free" is sooooo SPAM. Since when does anybody give something away for free?!

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
haha yeah

I just realized at first I was not generous enough in points. 5 points for buy? screw that, I'll give it 25! lol buy a is almost instant spam as well.

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
Porn spam is frequent. Might want to make a list of "naughty sexual related words"

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
The keyword "WIN, BUY, FREE" are really good indicators of possible spam. 75% of my posts used something like that (I believe)

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Yeah, shorter messages are harder to pick up as spam too, so the system is not too bad to consider it did pick up a few of the messages. Needs more rule tune up though.

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
I'll have to think of some more. Man, repeated spamming can be quite exhausting. I'll have to transfer all these IC's to furball wink.gif

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
I need to make a test script to just feed stuff and get the points, so I can get an idea how many points these are getting. should not take long I'll do that now meanwhile keep posting variations of these.

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
Still went through. Exact copy ^

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Man I'm sure those are super border line. I think all I really need to do is decrease the ammount of points required. em321.gif

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
I modified those two. They both have the same idea, but are worded differently. I'll try re-wording it the exact same as last time to see if it goes through....

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Try both of those again, (individually) I just tweaked the rules a bit.

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
Buy airline tickets for low low prices at itravel2000.com. <<<<< I see these ones a lot

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
I only know the points if you get pwned by it though, otherwise it does not log it anywhere unless I go in debug mode. But in that mode it ingores all posts. But it's good on my server as I can feed a bunch of spam in it to "train" the system... well I just add rules as I go, type of thing.

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Oh and I'm just deleting them as we go so spammers don't try to analyse what works and what does not, though it would not really help them... much.

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
LOL. It's totalled in points? NICE! Well, try this next one then: tongue.gif

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Wow you were right on the edge on that one, 50 points. em320.gif

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
try that survey one again... em321.gif Also try buy something at something.com (replace something by anything you want lol_

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Yep that's what it's suppost to do. Good stuff it's working now. em320.gif

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
Ya, they can't do much, but it's still kind of weird that they can have access to it. I tested the shout bbox. When spamming in it, the screen refreshes and the shout box becomes empty, as in NO VIEWABLE POSTS. Then, when I try to access anything else, I get the same message I receive when spamming in the forums.

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
For the point system the way it works, each specific rule gives points, some are negative, some are positive. Then at the end if there's more then 50 it's considered spam. em320.gif So 1020 is pretty good!

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Oh, but you can't access the forum? Yeah that's normal. The cybervillage is a seperate component so yes you can access it, but now that I think of it, I should make it so banned people can't access it either but it's not really an issue since it's not like they can do much. laugh.gif

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
No, with the ASPAM account. When I try to log in afterwards, it says that I cannot access the menu. But I can still access the cybervillage with the ASPAM account. Oh, and the shoutbox was spammed 3 times again with 3 different types of spam. conf.gif

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Odd, you mean with the furball account? What exactly is the message you get? Since it should not have blocked that account.

Did you try the shoutbox too?

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
1020 points? tongue.gif I don't get it. Oh well. By the way, When I try to log back in before you clear my spamming, it gives me the "Disabled menu" message when I'm trying to view the FORUMS. However, I still have access to the cybervillage tongue.gif. I dunno if this is an issue. i can retest it and give you a screenshot if you like. laugh.gif

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
nice! That scored 1020 points. em320.gif

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
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Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Try it now. em320.gif

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
Ahhhh, I'll fix it later. You said the shoutbox was working? Because I just spammed twice in it. blink.gif .

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Weird... you might ahve to clear your cookies first or something. em320.gif

I just notice a really bad security flaw in my security system (very ironic).

Basically I redesigned it a few weeks ago and forgot to impliment logging in it, so it was not logging anything that matched with a rule. ohmy.gif

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
Woah, that was weird. I was just signed in as Furball, but when I submitted my post, it's showing as ASPAM! ohmy.gif. Weird huh? Furball's alter ego? sagrin.gif

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
Hmmm, I'm not sure. I think Furball's account was running in the background so it didn't have time to refresh. The second time I spanned, I couldn't log in to either, so it works fine. LMAO my computer JUST crashed though. It sooo totally restarted on its own. I guess it's against SPAM as much as I am! roflmao.gif . Anyways, gonna check it out in the shout box.

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
I just unbanned the account for further testing. em320.gif

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Haha

The first time, what happened? Since I noticed it had blocked your IP but did not ban the account.

Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time
Nice one. Better switch accounts though em319.gif

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Yeah I was thinking the quote system, but a bit harder to moderate that. Though so far no one has done it. I should just make it so you need a certain ammount of posts to use it.

Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time
Hi, I'm new here at Iceteks. I bought an Ipod at Zellers for 493$ and I don't know how to use it? Does anybody know how?

Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time
Did those help? I'll try the shout box next. Think somebody will try to spam in the message of the day section?

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
hehe the rules need a bit of a tune up but in general it worked. funny since I hit refresh and just see the "banned" pop up.

There's a feature I forgot to put though, make it so it alerts me when it happens. It only alerts me when the user is trying to access but I usually ingore those thinking it's some old rule I made a while back. So need to make it set an alarm for spamming.

ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time
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Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Try it again I noticed something was not working. Forgot to upload a file.

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
It will but I'll know to unblock it. em320.gif

Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time
Alright. I'm gonna test some spam. I'm gonna make a new account called ASPAM, BSPAM and such. Hopefully it doesn't ban my IP though tongue.gif.

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
Sure but you might want to use a proxy, or make sure I'm online when you do so. em320.gif

Just register a new account and copy and paste some random spam such as this:

QUOTE

A no bull way to make money online. NO CC NUMBER NEEDED!!!

You probably see pop ups and ads all over saying “Get paid to take surveys”, and stuff like that. A lot of these are just scams that make you pay THEM. Most of the other companies have you entered into ravels for completing a survey.

This Site pays a cash minimum of 5$ for every survey completed. I made 40 bucks on one survey that took less then 8 minutes to complete. Payout ranges from 5-75 bucks. This is a GREAT way to make money…. Truly the American way. Here is exactly how I did it.

1. Go to http://www.5u6v2y7a2v6.2o6/2i5=7624679

2. Sign up. You need to give your mailing address only for them sending the checks. (I have been with this program for over a month, and have not received any spam, junk mail, or annoying calls.)

3. Use a real Email address because they send you the surveys through Email

4. After your all done sighing up, go into the members section. You will see the profile enhancers. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! Fill out as many of them as you can. There short. I did all of them in less then 10 minutes. If you do these, you will get A LOT more real surveys. More Surveys = More cash.

5. After filling a bunch, or all of them out. Just book mark the site.

6. Check your Email daily. When ever you get a survey from them, you have to qualify for it by answering 1-2 questions (your age, male/female.. something like that) This is just to make sure your not lying. Id say just to be honest.

7. When you qualify for a survey, take it (kind of boring, takes less then 15 minutes though) after it is complete you can log back into the homepage and check your revenue. I would let the money build up a little bit, instead of asking for a check every time you complete one.

Any Questions?
Hope this works out for you as well as it did for me.

Checks take 2-3 weeks to send….. Want proof? Hear you go:

http://im41551e5s6c2/5m71255772/2p5c7u2e502i516.jpg

Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time
HEY! Can I test the system? tongue.gif

Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time
I just programmed and installed a spam detection system. I tested all the spam at AF (got lots!) and it all came positive, and I tested a bunch of normal posts, even non-intro type posts, and they came negative. So I think the system is pretty good and will be improved as new types of spam are introduced in the forum community. But right now it's drugs and ipods so the system concentrates on that, mostly, but has lot of general rules so it should cover a wide variety of spam.

This won't affect curent members, just new members. After making it past the spam checker a few times, it stops checking, assuming the person is posting legit stuff. So this decreases the chance of false positives.

Problem is, there is a way around this, and the only way to stop that is to use something that would be extreemly hard on the server, but based on most spammers they don't even come close to going around the system, anyway.

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