| Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Just checking to make sure that my main account isn't switching to ASPAM |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Sure thing, I'll log out from the ASPAM account. Spamming gets tedious after awhile. Now I feel like such a cretin. Anyways, Caio. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| well I'm closing my text editor and admin CP so don't try more since I won't be around to unblock you. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Yeah but what's hard with small words like that is that they can possibly be used in a different context. Such as "hi I'm knew! Once I get more free time I'll try to post more" |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Free should be a good 100 points. The word "free" is sooooo SPAM. Since when does anybody give something away for free?! |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| haha yeah I just realized at first I was not generous enough in points. 5 points for buy? screw that, I'll give it 25! lol buy a is almost instant spam as well. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Porn spam is frequent. Might want to make a list of "naughty sexual related words" |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| The keyword "WIN, BUY, FREE" are really good indicators of possible spam. 75% of my posts used something like that (I believe) |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Yeah, shorter messages are harder to pick up as spam too, so the system is not too bad to consider it did pick up a few of the messages. Needs more rule tune up though. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| I'll have to think of some more. Man, repeated spamming can be quite exhausting. I'll have to transfer all these IC's to furball |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| I need to make a test script to just feed stuff and get the points, so I can get an idea how many points these are getting. should not take long I'll do that now meanwhile keep posting variations of these. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Still went through. Exact copy ^ |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Man I'm sure those are super border line. I think all I really need to do is decrease the ammount of points required. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| I modified those two. They both have the same idea, but are worded differently. I'll try re-wording it the exact same as last time to see if it goes through.... |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Try both of those again, (individually) I just tweaked the rules a bit. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Buy airline tickets for low low prices at itravel2000.com. <<<<< I see these ones a lot |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| I only know the points if you get pwned by it though, otherwise it does not log it anywhere unless I go in debug mode. But in that mode it ingores all posts. But it's good on my server as I can feed a bunch of spam in it to "train" the system... well I just add rules as I go, type of thing. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Oh and I'm just deleting them as we go so spammers don't try to analyse what works and what does not, though it would not really help them... much. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| LOL. It's totalled in points? NICE! Well, try this next one then: |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Wow you were right on the edge on that one, 50 points. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| try that survey one again... |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Yep that's what it's suppost to do. Good stuff it's working now. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Ya, they can't do much, but it's still kind of weird that they can have access to it. I tested the shout bbox. When spamming in it, the screen refreshes and the shout box becomes empty, as in NO VIEWABLE POSTS. Then, when I try to access anything else, I get the same message I receive when spamming in the forums. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| For the point system the way it works, each specific rule gives points, some are negative, some are positive. Then at the end if there's more then 50 it's considered spam. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Oh, but you can't access the forum? Yeah that's normal. The cybervillage is a seperate component so yes you can access it, but now that I think of it, I should make it so banned people can't access it either but it's not really an issue since it's not like they can do much. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| No, with the ASPAM account. When I try to log in afterwards, it says that I cannot access the menu. But I can still access the cybervillage with the ASPAM account. Oh, and the shoutbox was spammed 3 times again with 3 different types of spam. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Odd, you mean with the furball account? What exactly is the message you get? Since it should not have blocked that account. Did you try the shoutbox too? |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| 1020 points? |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| nice! That scored 1020 points. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Mortgages offered for irresistibly low prices. Need to pay off your mortgage? Want to pay it off early? Want to send your kids to college with the money you'll save? Then visit mgageindustry.com to sign up today! |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Try it now. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Ahhhh, I'll fix it later. You said the shoutbox was working? Because I just spammed twice in it. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Weird... you might ahve to clear your cookies first or something. I just notice a really bad security flaw in my security system (very ironic). Basically I redesigned it a few weeks ago and forgot to impliment logging in it, so it was not logging anything that matched with a rule. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Woah, that was weird. I was just signed in as Furball, but when I submitted my post, it's showing as ASPAM! |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Hmmm, I'm not sure. I think Furball's account was running in the background so it didn't have time to refresh. The second time I spanned, I couldn't log in to either, so it works fine. LMAO my computer JUST crashed though. It sooo totally restarted on its own. I guess it's against SPAM as much as I am! |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| I just unbanned the account for further testing. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Haha The first time, what happened? Since I noticed it had blocked your IP but did not ban the account. |
| Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Nice one. Better switch accounts though |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Yeah I was thinking the quote system, but a bit harder to moderate that. Though so far no one has done it. I should just make it so you need a certain ammount of posts to use it. |
| Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Hi, I'm new here at Iceteks. I bought an Ipod at Zellers for 493$ and I don't know how to use it? Does anybody know how? |
| Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Did those help? I'll try the shout box next. Think somebody will try to spam in the message of the day section? |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| hehe the rules need a bit of a tune up but in general it worked. funny since I hit refresh and just see the "banned" pop up. There's a feature I forgot to put though, make it so it alerts me when it happens. It only alerts me when the user is trying to access but I usually ingore those thinking it's some old rule I made a while back. So need to make it set an alarm for spamming. |
| ASPAM - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Growth suppliments now available. Contact m@h.com for more details. Need to grow bigger? Short on life, buy yours today! Buy your growth suppliments for 23$ US today! |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Try it again I noticed something was not working. Forgot to upload a file. |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| It will but I'll know to unblock it. |
| Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| Alright. I'm gonna test some spam. I'm gonna make a new account called ASPAM, BSPAM and such. Hopefully it doesn't ban my IP though |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time | ||
| Sure but you might want to use a proxy, or make sure I'm online when you do so. Just register a new account and copy and paste some random spam such as this:
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| Furball - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| HEY! Can I test the system? |
| Red Squirrel - Jan-07-2005 server time |
| I just programmed and installed a spam detection system. I tested all the spam at AF (got lots!) and it all came positive, and I tested a bunch of normal posts, even non-intro type posts, and they came negative. So I think the system is pretty good and will be improved as new types of spam are introduced in the forum community. But right now it's drugs and ipods so the system concentrates on that, mostly, but has lot of general rules so it should cover a wide variety of spam. This won't affect curent members, just new members. After making it past the spam checker a few times, it stops checking, assuming the person is posting legit stuff. So this decreases the chance of false positives. Problem is, there is a way around this, and the only way to stop that is to use something that would be extreemly hard on the server, but based on most spammers they don't even come close to going around the system, anyway. |