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rovingcowboy - Oct-31-2003 server time
fixed this also.

have now used a ata card and put the 80 gb and a new 20 gb from online store. in to the old win98 computer and am using all for music jukebox. but all is working. xyxthumbs.gif

only like with the dell it needs to have the magic dell stamp. banghead.gif

[i]rovingcowboy[/i] - Feb-11-2003 server time
me being lazy and not loging in again biggrin.gif

but i am out of luck on this 20 gb hd. i cant find one in the fort worth dallas area, all are 40 that i have found.

i have to buy one out of the mail order book and get a seagate if i want a 20 gb. banghead.gif banghead.gif i like that smilie seems to fit a lot lately.


manadren - Feb-10-2003 server time
QUOTE ([i]rovingcowboy[/i] @ Feb 10 2003, 03:06 AM)
which is good cause the store would not take it back and dell would not use it because the dell bios did not like it since it was not stamped by dell. banghead.gif

that does not make sense i know but i put it in the dell and winxp seen it but the dell bios would not accept it. ? and the one that is in there is the same dang hd, a maxtor 80 gb. it even looks the same.. pissed.gif

well that sucks sad.gif. strange though as recently I installed an off the shelf hd into a a dell computer, a 60gb seagate baracuda IV if I remember correctly. It did look like it was a newer model though, so maybe it's something dell just stopped doing recently, I dunno.

[i]rovingcowboy[/i] - Feb-10-2003 server time
i agree with the looney part if ya got that big of one in your house. Where Would you sleep? biggrin.gif

but i am just going to use the 20 gb one if i can get it to work. as i am having to use an ide card in a isa slot to add in the drive.

i might be luckier with the cdrom being hooked up to that. as i did on the old win 95 computer and just making the drive go in to the mb as normal.

but i have to get the hd first as i did put the 80gb one in the win me computer maxtor installed the ez bios on it without any arguments so it seen the 80 gb one. biggrin.gif

which is good cause the store would not take it back and dell would not use it because the dell bios did not like it since it was not stamped by dell. banghead.gif

that does not make sense i know but i put it in the dell and winxp seen it but the dell bios would not accept it. ? and the one that is in there is the same dang hd, a maxtor 80 gb. it even looks the same.. pissed.gif

manadren - Feb-10-2003 server time
honestly I don't know alot about the OS limiting hard drive size, usualy it's either a matter of the bios or file system.

fat32, the file system used in win98 and ME, does have limit volume size to 32gb, but again that's volume size, you can have more than one volume on a drive, that is, more than one logical drive. So if you had a 40gb hard drive you could break that up into 2 20gb logical drives using a tool like fdisk or partition magic [I don't remember if the 98\me setup is that advanced to do partitioning, though the 2k and xp setups are]

a quick run down of common files systems and volume limits:

fat16 (dos, win95\98\ME) 2gb (in win2k\xp) 4gb

fat32 (win98\ME, win2k\XP) 32gb

ntfs (win2k\xp) 255 terabytes (theoretical)

but again once you reach these limits, if yor bios allows for it, you can work around them by creating more than one volume (partition) on your drive, that is unless you're using ntfs, in which case if you said you had a 300tb drive, you obviously are either a looney or have the money to pay someone else to figure it out for you tongue.gif

Red Squirrel - Feb-08-2003 server time
You'll be fine with a 20Gig, the limit is per hard drive I think, so you could have 4 32 gigs and it would still work if the limit is 32, but I'm not sure what the limit is though, but I know it's 32 or more since I had a 40 gig once and it was 32 because of the bios.

rovingcowboy - Feb-08-2003 server time
ok so i can get a 20 gb hard drive and add it in to the system right. and it will see it. or was that a limit of 32 gbs nomatter how many hd's you had?


Red Squirrel - Feb-08-2003 server time
I think 32Gigs is the max it can see, but I'm not sure. That's the highest I've seen. In my case I think it was the bios limiting me and not the OS though, but I did use win98se.

rovingcowboy - Feb-08-2003 server time
what is the size that the os can see up to.? i know the 80gb is too big for those os's mad.gif

but it worked on the winMe biggrin.gif

so i am after another new one for the win98 but dont want to get one i cant use anywhere as i have no more places for one other then win98.

thanks. unsure.gif

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