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Red Squirrel - Jul-10-2004 server time
haha. English is illegal. tongue.gif

We'll see how long my article stays up. I plug gator a few times in it, purposely. em320.gif

manadren - Jul-10-2004 server time
QUOTE (Red Squirrel @ Jul 4 2004, 05:04 PM)
It's "Adware", the company insists, since users must approve the product before installation.

yeah, I"m not getting that statement. Just because you supposedly recieve consent to spy on someone, that doesn't mean that all the sudden you are not spying. But I suppose we are debating over the meaning of the word spy. Let's see what our good buddy Merriam-Webster says.

Main Entry: spy
Pronunciation: 'spI
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): spied; spy·ing
Etymology: Middle English spien, from Old French espier, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German spehOn to spy; akin to Latin specere to look, look at, Greek skeptesthai & skopein to watch, look at, consider
transitive senses
1 : to watch secretly usually for hostile purposes
2 : to catch sight of : SEE
3 : to search or look for intensively
intransitive senses
1 : to observe or search for something : LOOK
2 : to watch secretly as a spy

I suppose they would try to debate the definition of secretly and hostile in that first definiton, but the other four seem pretty relevant to me, and I don't see anything relating to the existence or lack of approval in any of those. They are observing user computers and searching for marketable information. They are an entity "who keeps secret watch on a person or thing to obtain information" that they can sell to other people. And now they are suing people who have a grasp on the english language. Better stay away from english class, you could get sued. Apparently literacy is a problem in these here united states tongue.gif

Wren - Jul-04-2004 server time
Gator/AKA/Claria...so watch out for that one too. wink.gif

Red Squirrel - Jul-04-2004 server time
Just use WMP for avis and make sure you have the divX codec. no need for gator.

We'll see how long that article stays up. em320.gif It's going to a good number of sites like usual so it will get quite allot of views. But the worse that can happen is just a legal threat to remove that part etc... I'll fight with them a bit then just remove it.

Triple6_wild - Jul-04-2004 server time
hmm ive got that file lol it comes with kazaa codec and its tricky lol remove it and ya cant watch avi's and i DL alot of avi's

Red Squirrel - Jul-04-2004 server time
Found this on the net. But it's not going to stop me from finishing up my latest article, which mentions gator as being spyware. em321.gif Lawsuit threats are so fun... it's not liek I never got one before. LOL it's like getting off a nearly derailed rolloer coaster when you open those letters. biglaugh.gif

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/34679

Don't call Gator spyware; err, irritating intrusive garbage, or you might be sued by the company for libel. Gator is no stranger to criticism, being a regular target of the Interactive Advertising Bureau, as well as much of the industry, for persistent security holes and sleazy business tactics.

A group of web publishers such as the The Washington Post, the New York Times, and Dow Jones, recently filed suit against the company claiming that Gator sells ads on their Web sites without permission and then pockets the profits. The suit labeled the company as a "parasite that free rides on the hard work and investment" of web publishers.

We've talked about Gator several times in the past. Gator has long been targeted by spyware removal products like Adaware and Spybot search and destroy; even Symantec at one point labeled the program a Trojan, despite Symantec being a one-time investor in Gator corporation.

The software is bundled with numerous applications, and pitched as a useful service (a fairly feeble claim). In reality its primary purpose is to track users shopping habits, provide them with customized advertisements for products, then kick back fees to the Gator corp. when purchased.

Apparently in a PR push to improve their image, Gator corporation has been launching lawsuits against companies who refer to their product as "spyware" according to CNET. It's "Adware", the company insists, since users must approve the product before installation. PCPitstop, a website dedicated to tweaking your system, has settled over a libel suit filed by Gator corporation, and was forced to remove any and all references to Gator as "spyware", as well as articles urging users to boycott the company.

In related news, bank robbery can now only be referred to as "professional forced fund reallocation."

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